CO-MODERATOR LYONS: Mr. Chairman, I should have warned you that the three citrus people are color blind and couldn't see the lights.

(Laughter.)

CO-MODERATOR JONES: There was no orange, so they paid no attention to it.

(Laughter.)

CO-MODERATOR LYONS: I apologize for that, Mr. Chairman.

MR. QUARLES: We missed the yellow.

(Laughter.)

CO-MODERATOR JONES: Any questions from our negotiators for the panel?

Mr. Rominger.

USDA DEPUTY SECRETARY ROMINGER: Yeah, I just wanted to say some things in response to some of the things that have been mentioned here. On the SPS agreement and the possibilities of opening that up. You know, I think we agree with you that we don't want to open it up and have some of these countries introduce other things that we don't think belong in the SPS. But what we do think we need is some clarifications in the SPS agreement that will go a long way to solving some of our problems. So we're working on it from that end.

Codex standards, Jean-Mari, I think we agree with you there. We are working with Japan and some of the developing countries to see if we can't make some headway on that issue. As far as Taiwan goes, of course, when they accede to the WTO, why, those tariffs have to come down, so we're looking to keep working on that.

So both China and Taiwan want the end of the WTO as we all know, but they have to have a package that will satisfy some of our needs, so we'll keep working on that one.

On pest infestations, we certainly welcome the support for APHIS. They do have a big job and as world trade and travel, people traveling, if those numbers continue to increase, we know we've got more pest pressures. We also know that, from time to time, we've had smuggling of different commodities coming into the U.S. So I know California has been tightening up on that and we're working with them doing the same thing. But both the smuggling, the intentional bringing in of products and tourists accidentally bringing them in, we know we've got to step up the efforts there. And we welcome your support on getting APHIS what it needs to do the job.